Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fresno Crossing, California (2nd nomination)

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The result was redirect‎ to Jim Savage. If you disagree with this Redirect target, please have a discussion on the talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 07:11, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fresno Crossing, California (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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Ineligible for PROD because it was proposed for deletion once before, closed as "keep". Site is not a recognized populated place (let alone "unincorporated community"); it's just a river crossing. No improvements to article since previous AfD. Without meaningful secondary coverage it fails WP:GNG, and without evidence this was a populated place it fails WP:GEOLAND. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 00:37, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and California. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 00:37, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • All of the external bare URLs from the prior AFD discussion are either paywalled or "no such page" for me. So I read the Fresno history books instead.

    It's not an "unincorporated community". It was the site of the James D. Savage Trading Post, and near to the site of (until the area was flooded in 1971) the Savage Monument. There's very little to say about this that isn't really about the Savage Trading Post. There are perhaps a couple of sentences in some 19th century histories of Fresno that describe ownership the year after Savage died. But pretty much all else is histories of Savage.

    I'm not sure whether we should have this point to Jim Savage or the Savage Trading Post article, or refactor it into Savage Monument. We do seem to have much of this actually in Jim Savage already; the problem with Savage Trading Post is that it doesn't cover that (per the Rensch+Rensch+Hoover history) he actually had four trading posts, and the one at Fresno Crossing was his fourth and last; and the Savage Monument is only near to where the fourth trading post was. The mining was not here, but at Coarse Gold Gulch in the history books. And the only "camp" here in the history books was but one of several forestry labour camps "for unemployed transients" in the 1930s.

    Uncle G (talk) 02:02, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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