GingerSweetGirl

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shit's easy now, just use fit control and then fix with the meshgrabber
I still can't believe that he has seemingly introduced a new environment and populated it with numerous characters, only for it to play a small-ish role in the overall event that it was introduced in. I don't get it. The scene looks great from what we've seen, why not make use of it and build the entire scene around it? Unless he plans on using it again in the future, this feels like a huge waste of time.
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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Its probably still more realistic then most or maybe even all other games here but I can't be sure on that 100% but I'd guess its more realistic then most especially when you add this slow burn instead of "omg I just saw this big dick and now its inside my virgin body".

I mean look at the last 2nd job event, "You teen/preteens don't know how to jerk off? Well I'll just show you, fuck it" granted she wasn't jerking them off for pleasure but for teaching but still.

Regardless its an Adult game which is why I don't see the need to take it so serious when it comes to the size of a bag, distances between places, types of clothes, or the subway event.
And the funny thing about the 2nd side job and reading about it on the forum is that in Two P.Ds that started on P.D. 11, The apostle achieves more with Sophia than any other males, besides Liam, from the start of P.D. 1, through "Sex-Ed" of course. And although Dylan is her Son, She applying the same "Sex-Ed" Theme with him as well, and he is nowhere even close to that level yet. This is just one example of why people are questioning the realism of AWAM. Yes, It's smut in the end, as GingerSweetGirl said, and as you point out, we shouldn't take it seriously, but L&P said his novel is based on his comments

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His artwork is good, but some of the story paths do call into question of realism, which is a problem L&P created when he used these words to describe his novel. So it's only natural that people will question his reasoning behind certain scenes. IMO, He should have never used the word "Realistic" to describe his novel.

So the question here is, Do you think it's realistic that the "Apostle" achieve that level of "Sex-Ed" in two P.Ds?
 

ancienregimele

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And the funny thing about the 2nd side job and reading about it on the forum is that in Two P.Ds that started on P.D. 11, The apostle achieves more with Sophia than any other males, besides Liam, from the start of P.D. 1, through "Sex-Ed" of course. And although Dylan is her Son, She applying the same "Sex-Ed" Theme with him as well, and he is nowhere even close to that level yet. This is just one example of why people are questioning the realism of AWAM. Yes, It's smut in the end, as GingerSweetGirl said, and as you point out, we shouldn't take it seriously, but L&P said his novel is based on his comments

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His artwork is good, but some of the story paths do call into question of realism, which is a problem L&P created when he used these words to describe his novel. So it's only natural that people will question his reasoning behind certain scenes. IMO, He should have never used the word "Realistic" to describe his novel.

So the question here is, Do you think it's realistic that the "Apostle" achieve that level of "Sex-Ed" in two P.Ds?
Absolutely, categorically, undoubtedly Not Realistic. So glad to be able to avoid it. I'm glad you've shown that extract from L&P. It reminds us all exactly what was supposed to be going on here.
 

L&P's Father-in-Law

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I still can't believe that he has seemingly introduced a new environment and populated it with numerous characters, only for it to play a small-ish role in the overall event that it was introduced in. I don't get it. The scene looks great from what we've seen, why not make use of it and build the entire scene around it? Unless he plans on using it again in the future, this feels like a huge waste of time.
my main issue here is that I thought he had gone to a huge trouble putting that scene together but after all its just an out of the box scene, he barely touched anything
theres no reason at all to spend more than a week building that scene, unless you work 1 day per week or 1 hour per day. the more we go forward the worse it gets in terms of him being able to keep the jig up
 

GingerSweetGirl

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And the funny thing about the 2nd side job and reading about it on the forum is that in Two P.Ds that started on P.D. 11, The apostle achieves more with Sophia than any other males, besides Liam, from the start of P.D. 1, through "Sex-Ed" of course. And although Dylan is her Son, She applying the same "Sex-Ed" Theme with him as well, and he is nowhere even close to that level yet. This is just one example of why people are questioning the realism of AWAM. Yes, It's smut in the end, as GingerSweetGirl said, and as you point out, we shouldn't take it seriously, but L&P said his novel is based on his comments

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His artwork is good, but some of the story paths do call into question of realism, which is a problem L&P created when he used these words to describe his novel. So it's only natural that people will question his reasoning behind certain scenes. IMO, He should have never used the word "Realistic" to describe his novel.

So the question here is, Do you think it's realistic that the "Apostle" achieve that level of "Sex-Ed" in two P.Ds?
No one is happy with the Apostles. Some of the people here don't mind the content, but I think everyone agrees that the pace of progress was insane. My feelings are well established on this scene.

The point is, the only way L&P could maintain realism while increasing the pace, would be to totally restructure the game. Instead of a day-by-day progression, he would need to shift to an event based release that jumped days and filled in the gaps with montages. So v0.150 would be something like an event on Monday, and event on Thursday, then an event on Saturday (just picking days), all of which would have sexy content. L&P would then have to explain that on Wednesday some boring, but important, exposition took place that set up the sex event on Thursday.

The thing is, this isn't a great idea either because it would still feel forced. But I don't know any other way to include the necessary sexy content the game needs, with the increased pace that he has to deliver. We can't have exposition forever and he knows it. Honestly, I wouldn't want to be in L&P's shoes right now. I think he has a really difficult balancing act.
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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No one is happy with the Apostles. Some of the people here don't mind the content, but I think everyone agrees that the pace of progress was insane. My feelings are well established on this scene.

The point is, the only way L&P could maintain realism while increasing the pace, would be to totally restructure the game. Instead of a day-by-day progression, he would need to shift to an event based release that jumped days and filled in the gaps with montages. So v0.150 would be something like an event on Monday, and event on Thursday, then an event on Saturday (just picking days), all of which would have sexy content. L&P would then have to explain that on Wednesday some boring, but important, exposition took place that set up the sex event on Thursday.

The thing is, this isn't a great idea either because it would still feel forced. But I don't know any other way to include the necessary sexy content the game needs, with the increased pace that he has to deliver. We can't have exposition forever and he knows it. Honestly, I wouldn't want to be in L&P's shoes right now. I think he has a really difficult balancing act.
I agree that time-lapses or skips would have been the key to advancing the novel with montages and narrations to give it a more realistic feel, but L&P's problem is the number of supporting characters and paths he has in the story. To time-lapse the events, he would have to visit each storyline and make sure it lines up with a time-lapse or skip. If it doesn't, he will have all sorts of problems, not to mention the hours he would need to review each character's storyline that interacts with Sophia. I think this is why he didn't want to time-lapse the story going forward and keep it the way it is right now.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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I agree that time-lapses or skips would have been the key to advancing the novel with montages and narrations to give it a more realistic feel, but L&P's problem is the number of supporting characters and paths he has in the story. To time-lapse the events, he would have to visit each storyline and make sure it lines up with a time-lapse or skip. If it doesn't, he will have all sorts of problems, not to mention the hours he would need to review each character's storyline that interacts with Sophia. I think this is why he didn't want to time-lapse the story going forward and keep it the way it is right now.
I agree. For every problem it fixed it probably created a new one. Changing gears like this in midstream was probably just too much.
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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I agree. For every problem it fixed it probably created a new one. Changing gears like this in midstream was probably just too much.
His problem is that he thought big, instead of small and grow from there. If he would have listened from the start, when people were offering this advice to him, I think he would have been in a better position. He could have kept the novel manageable for one person to handle.
 

ancienregimele

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Thus, why i said, most people here will be developing grey hairs by the time the sex scenes start playing out and that's only if he doesn't eventually abandon the project.
All the hair I've got left has been grey for quite a few years & for now I've still got some but as for seeing the end of this game???? I keep saying he needs to write stories & characters out, or at least put them to one side. He could use a poll, (a structured proper poll, no multiple votes but perhaps 2nd & 3rd choices?), to help gain fan acceptance of such a course. I believe he may have gone through a period where it was easier to extend the content by introducing new people & storylines, as opposed to actually writing the core stories. One result of this is that the multiple paths are too much for one person to manage in a timely manner & AWAM is now top heavy, just like Sophia. I also think there's a liklihood of abandonment in the next couple of years, if things don't change.

Surely there must come a time when L&P will see that it's in his own & the paying fans' long-term interests to start seriously pruning this running wild 'family tree?' He could even do what he promised 4 years ago & get some help, (which I say with tongue in cheek). Then again, looking at previous form......
 

nexer

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The good thing about the 2nd sidejob event described by L&P as "freaking hot" is that we know what "freaking hot" means to L&P.
It's not about the sex, nor the age of the characters involved but the situation the characters are put in.
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VanDarkBalls

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The good thing about the 2nd sidejob event described by L&P as "freaking hot" is that we know what "freaking hot" means to L&P.
It's not about the sex, nor the age of the characters involved but the situation the characters are put in.
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the guys will study Sofia's body, perform various manipulations with her breasts and nipples, then smoothly move to the lower part of the body, all this will happen in stages in a natural way, in short, I have watched a lot of Japanese porn, there is an obvious connection, right
In the next lesson, I predict that they will just study her breasts a little, and when they go too far, there will be a stop, and already in the next lesson something will be more difficult, he has now started doing a lot of manipulations with her breasts, it is very noticeable, the exposure of the nipples and breasts occurs literally with every update
 
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